1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Falkon45 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:44 am

Lol. I could never find 26 3/8- 26 1/4 tires that were good. That's why I didn't do too much worn the fuji I had. I wanted to go 650c because to I needed different brakes to fit the 700c wheels. Tire height will change on the width of the tire, so 700cx32 tires are taller than 700cx23 tires. I'll take some measurements when I get back home of my tire height on the Denali pro wheels and let to I know what I've got
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:35 am

I would definitely appreciate that :)
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:08 pm

So...
I bought these dudes tonight
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CST Scales; Kevlar, smooth center tread with a moderate side tread, reflective sidewalls, so I can ditch the reflectors on the spokes... about 615g with wire bead. I'll be saving 100g on each tire! Pfffffttt! :P
These are the best I could find in this size within any reasonable budget. The rest was lots of odd colored tires and Chinese gumwall tires with what looks like a snow tread. Exactly what's on the bike now, and expensive Panaracers and Shwalbe, though a few Kendas and a Sunlite looked pretty reasonable.. I have CST's on my Schwinn and I like those so far, and honestly, I like the reflective sidewalls :D

Anyway, the aluminum shift levers I had made are still on the bench, a Cold cold bench, waiting for me to finish them. But a N.O.S. Shimano shifter set with cables is screaming my name from Ebay.. I'll probably end up grabbing those in the next few days and get this bike ready to go just in time for warmer weather to remind me how I regained the weight I had lost riding lol
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Falkon45 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:25 am

Lol. That's awesome! . The kendas I bought for the fuji were expensive (from the lbs). They had straight tread but were 65 psi, and just couldn't hold up to me and my 240lbs mass. I like the cst tires on got on the Denali pro now. 110 psi, slicks, and can take when have to hop the bike. The 90psi stock tires were okay, but the schniders valves lost air in a couple days. I've since put presta tubes in that wheelset (planned to sell them) and they've held strong for a couple months!
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:48 am

I managed to get this bike on the road Sunday.
It's a cool old ride, fast, easy to accelerate, cruises well, good brakes, the CST tires are far better than the old dual purpose knobby tires on the road.
I cheated a bit and put 80psi in the tires, it's a little stiff, but the rolling resistance is very low.
The friction shifters are slow to shift, with only 6 gears in the rear, the throw between gears seems very long, I think an 8 or 9 speed would work well if you don't mind the friction shifters..

New Parts List;
Tires CST Scales 26x1 3/8 37-590 Tubes and new rim strips $57.00
Origin8 track pedals $24.00
New shifter set with cables $12.00
New seat, still on the slow boat from China $14.00
ODI red bar end plugs (because I'm vain like that) $15.00

At my original set budget of $100.00 I went a lil over, But the overall change to the looks of the bike is minimal, while some of the updates are wildly noticeable. Like the pedals, they're lighter, smaller and just look 100% better. Overall, with the removal of the kickstand, the bike weighs 1lb 11oz lighter than before, even though the tires added 100g over stock, the pedal swap and the kickstand removal were worthwhile to the weight weenie factor. Starting weight 35lb 11oz, finished 34lb. Still a heavy bike

My riding impression? I'm 49, road bikes aren't exactly my thing anymore. I can see me hopping on this thing when I'm in the mood to go fast, or in the mood to ride something different, but I'm afraid it's going to be sitting still an awful lot while I'm riding the 29'er on and off of the road in my usual mix. The road bike is cool, it's enough for me to know that I might not be all too willing to ride in that position for very long anymore. My flexibility is fine, but long term, my back would suffer. Did I mention it's Heavy? The weight of the bike really doesn't show for me when riding though. I'm sure that if I ever ride a carbon frame 10lb bike, I'll know the difference, but my back will still not want to assume this position for extended rides lol.. So, this will be my "Bike to ride when I'm bored and I want something different" The tires are wide enough, and the steel wheelset is strong enough, to ride cross style, which back in the day, cross was normal riding around here lol.. So, it might see some dry yard work :-P

I'll post pics as the seat comes in, and as I find nice days and time, but this one is pretty much done
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:46 am

Do you reckon my postal carrier knows what I got in the mail yesterday?
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That Chinese packaging and marketing :D
Free advertising to the postal workers! lol
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:29 pm

A break in the rain today :)
In the beginning, There was this
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And a hundred and a half later, There was this
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The bike rides good, feels great, winds up fast and climbs well but it feels kind of small. Could just be the fact that I like the mountain bikes better :P
85psi in the tires is holding up fine, the track pedals are a little on the narrow and I find the crank arm smacking my foot outward once in a while, just not really deep enough into this bike to go clipless.
Wheelies ok, the ride is ok for a road bike, I can definitely feel the road, but it's not as bad as I had expected. I'm not entirely pleased with the seat, but that's my preference and nothing to do with the quality of the Chinese seat.
Pics of the details still to come. Spent more time riding, and less time looking at it today
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Falkon45 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:45 pm

That's awesome! It'll take some time to get used to riding it. Don't go overboard like me, and get a carbon fork. Ride it and have fun.
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:00 pm

I just made my last run for the day, up to the gas station and back, about a mile.. It's a fun bike :)
Thanks Falkon for your help and encouragement lol.. I do appreciate it. I think somehow, I love the idea of this bike, maybe more than the reality of it. I don't think I'll be giving this one away, it belonged to my dad and I'll probably hold on to it for that as much as anything, even though he doesn't seem to remember it :P

I haven't spoiled that retro look too bad yet, but I have made it suit my purposes a lil better. No racks or baskets for this one, the back pack will have to go with me when I'm on this one too!
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Re: 1984 Murray X12 37x590wheel 22" frame .. restore?

Postby Tomcat65 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:27 pm

Bike and canoe washing day... Funny how small this Murray looks near my son's Deception
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The old Murray still rides great. Love the CST tires, still questioning the narrow Origin8 track pedals, but Until I go clipless, they'll do. I ride it like it's a Cyclocross bike, and as long as it has those heavy steel wheels, I think it'll hold up. The battlefield, the schoolyard, no problem, but I can Not make myself jump that old bike lol :P
I finally settled on 70psi, 80 was too high, the bike felt a little too harsh.
There's a problem with the rear derailleur or maybe the hub, I stand up and deliver power, and sometimes, it skips. Not cool
The brakes do not exist when wet. When dry they scream and squeal under hard braking, new pads in order. Suggestions?
At $150.00 invested, I can't complain too much, but I'm already beyond the point of no return.

Those wide tires and wheels though... 37mm is enough to make me want to ride it off road every time I look down lol
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